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Old 02-01-2006, 04:41 PM
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In 1969, the group White Noise, recorded and released a project called An Electric Storm. This has to be some of the earliest form of music sequencing with many parts that would be classified as trip hop and drum and bass music of today. This record sounds like it couldve came from the 90's (aside from the extremely psychedelic late 60's vocals). Anyone else hear this? I was blown away by how innovative it was. What other projects were there in early electronic/experimental music that are worth listening to?
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Old 02-03-2006, 08:44 PM
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This is kind of a cross posting but check out Manhattan Research Project by Raymond Scott. He is known for doing the Looney Tunes orchestra stuff, after which he did radio comercials on electronic instruments he made. I know he did a lot of the engineering himself, and he had parts made by the then young Robert Moog.
http://www.umkc.edu/lib/spec-col/manhattan.htm
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Old 02-04-2006, 12:23 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion. Any one else have any recommendations for first generation sequencing with tape machines?
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Old 02-06-2006, 01:27 PM
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The United States of America - S/T
early use of ring mod and sample loops.
Fifty Foot Hose - Cauldron
same shit but with more home built synths and gadgets.
Os Mutantes - Os Mutantes
didn't this one had home built synths and triggers as well plus sampling?
The Crazy World of Arthur Brown - S/T
early drum machines and other gadgets only used for the music.
John Martyn - Solid Air
echo and guitar looping from a very cool folk rocker.

I'll think up some more, those for the time being are really awesome bands I would recommend you hear.
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Old 02-06-2006, 03:24 PM
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Faust were one of the most radical Krautrock groups of their era, using advanced studio techniques and electronics in a way that opened up new possibilities for studio composition. They turned a barn into a recording studio and would play along with loops live. They used tape loop samples of percussion and sounds to create interesting experimental rhythms. Faust-S/T and Faust IV are 2 great records to check out.
They did tour as a 2 piece band about 8 years ago. They took turns on guitar, percussion, old synths and tape machines. Great band!
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Old 02-06-2006, 04:02 PM
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Faust were one of the most radical Krautrock groups of their era, using advanced studio techniques and electronics in a way that opened up new possibilities for studio composition. They turned a barn into a recording studio and would play along with loops live. They used tape loop samples of percussion and sounds to create interesting experimental rhythms. Faust-S/T and Faust IV are 2 great records to check out.
They did tour as a 2 piece band about 8 years ago. They took turns on guitar, percussion, old synths and tape machines. Great band!
Yes! I think they're one of the first bands to list chainsaws in their liner notes under instruments. Faust Tapes is by far one of the best works by any artists ever outside of noise or within it. Similar to Faust would be early Kraftwerk and Tangerine Dream with all their noise experiments. Just sticking on the German realm maybe some of the work by Klaus Schulze or Manuel Gottsching.

Or going outside of that realm there was in Europe you know like Bowie, Silver Apples, Moroder, or in the US Shuggie Otis, Sly and the Family Stone, and Funkadelic. It's just cool to see if you really pay attention to liner notes what made what noise on any specific album. Like i said in another thread maybe even Robin Gibb's (part of the Bee Gees) first solo album (Robin's Reign) as well which used just old drum machines and mellotrons.
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Old 02-06-2006, 04:06 PM
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these are great recommendations, I have heard much of the Faust and certainly agree with their innovations. That Arthur Brown stuff is way out there...

cant wait to check out the others, thanks Dolivas
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Old 02-06-2006, 06:11 PM
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Throbbing Gristle all the way.

Well, if you can stand some noise with your innovation.
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Dolivas said Os Mutantes and that reminded me - Tom Ze !
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Old 02-10-2006, 01:41 PM
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Faust IV is such an amazing record! Don't forget Neu! ...although panned quite a bit, Neu! 75 is just everything it needs to be. Is anyone familiar with Silver Apples from the 60's? I read somewhere That there was this guy (name does not come to mind) back in the 1800's doing this really wacked out early forms of sequencing using independant clockwork and metronome technology to develop ways of creating mechanical sequences that would loop. I wish I could recall the name and where I read that. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? I may have the date wrong too haha.
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