sober vs intoxicated

[cthetranspire]

I have noticed that like all things, in moderation. I got pretty messed up before a show in DC and managed to watch a turntable, mixer, laptop all tumble off a table.

Just enough to take the edge off and help me "explore" sonarities is all I need.

Unless someone starts talking about Jaeger.

[SorenP]

yeah depends what i'm doin. I do like to play live with a few in me though. Just enough to start feelin good and have one or two more on stage.

[Jared Kubokawa]

I thought all (good) drummers were drunk(s)...

[smopo24]

Originally Posted by Jared Kubokawa

I thought all (good) drummers were drunk(s)...

Not true; my favorite 2 drummers are sober - straightedge even! Dave King is outstanding, and does not drink at all; he makes drumming look easy. Also, Jim Lindsay (formerly of Oranger and Preston School of Industry) doesn't touch the "sauce." After watching him for the first time, it shocked me that Jim could hit with that much energy; Mike Drake (Oranger's singer/guitarist) told me that Jim was the real front man for the band.

[Jared Kubokawa]

Jim Lindsay is way cool, but Dave King is a Jazz Drummer. With a capital "J" and "D". It's a title like Juris Doctorate.

Often professionally trained and technically off the charts, (time signatures, poly-rhythms and the whole works) in the end, Jazz drummers lack imagination. Maybe I'm naive and it's just my taste but God can it be boring. Not that rock isn't. Rock and all of its sub-genres can be downright awful.

I am a firm believer though that you can find good music in any genre. Hands down. But eventually Jazz just makes me feel nothing.

Ok, I listen to jazz often, even traditional jazz, and thoroughly enjoy it, but I just think about the jazz world as a whole different planet made up of too many sixteenth notes and a cacophony of inter stellar 6/8 solos after solos after solos. Not Han Solo either. I mean we are being subjective here.

[smopo24]

Originally Posted by Jared Kubokawa

Jim Lindsay is way cool, but Dave King is a Jazz Drummer. With a capital "J" and "D". It's a title like Juris Doctorate.

Often professionally trained and technically off the charts, (time signatures, poly-rhythms and the whole works) in the end, Jazz drummers lack imagination. Maybe I'm naive and it's just my taste but God can it be boring. Not that rock isn't. Rock and all of its sub-genres can be downright awful.

I am a firm believer though that you can find good music in any genre. Hands down. But eventually Jazz just makes me feel nothing.

Ok, I listen to jazz often, even traditional jazz, and thoroughly enjoy it, but I just think about the jazz world as a whole different planet made up of too many sixteenth notes and a cacophony of inter stellar 6/8 solos after solos after solos. Not Han Solo either. I mean we are being subjective here.

SO wrong! Dave has been in both Jazz (Bad Plus, Happy Apple, Ursus Minor) and Rock bands (12 rods, Halloween Alaska, Love-cars, and he did a song with Meat Beat Manifesto). He sometimes incorporates both Electronic, and Acoustic drums in his kit; not to mention the toys he uses during songs and parts of the kit that weren't ever meant to be played! I've seen him about a dozen times live (Jazz and Rock bands), and I've never once seen him be ANYTHING less than captivating. The Bad Plus often does Jazz interpretations of different styles of music - Flim by Aphex twin, Velouria by The Pixies, Iron Man by Black Sabbath, Heart of Glass by Blondie, Tom Sawyer by Rush, and Everybody Wants to Rule the World by Tears for Fears. The Bad Plus is the most Rock Jazz will ever be. Dave King is EASILY the best, most inventive, and most interesting drummer I've ever seen in my entire life. Period. If you are around when they come by, I'll pay for you (Jared K) to go to a show just to see the look on your face when his chops kick your ass. That's right!

[Jared Kubokawa]

Originally Posted by smopo24

SO wrong! Dave has been in both Jazz (Bad Plus, Happy Apple, Ursus Minor) and Rock bands (12 rods, Halloween Alaska, Love-cars, and he did a song with Meat Beat Manifesto). He sometimes incorporates both Electronic, and Acoustic drums in his kit; not to mention the toys he uses during songs and parts of the kit that weren't ever meant to be played! I've seen him about a dozen times live (Jazz and Rock bands), and I've never once seen him be ANYTHING less than captivating. The Bad Plus often does Jazz interpretations of different styles of music - Flim by Aphex twin, Velouria by The Pixies, Iron Man by Black Sabbath, Heart of Glass by Blondie, Tom Sawyer by Rush, and Everybody Wants to Rule the World by Tears for Fears. The Bad Plus is the most Rock Jazz will ever be. Dave King is EASILY the best, most inventive, and most interesting drummer I've ever seen in my entire life. Period. If you are around when they come by, I'll pay for you (Jared K) to go to a show just to see the look on your face when his chops kick your ass. That's right!

Dude, I'm there. If you're that excited then yeah. Party.

[smopo24]

Originally Posted by Jared Kubokawa

Dude, I'm there. If you're that excited then yeah. Party.

Rock and roll. I won't even say that I told you so. If this is what sobriety can do for you, sign me up!