Why are most drummers so damn loud?

[abarnett]

Originally Posted by smopo24

absoloutely, and a good drummer is hard to find. a great drummer can write their own ticket.

I don't know about this. I mean its hard to watch a band with a drummer that can't keep a beat, but i've seen a lot of bands with good drummers that make really boring music. Taste over talent. If you have good taste, then you know your limits with talent.

[smopo24]

Originally Posted by abarnett

I don't know about this. I mean its hard to watch a band with a drummer that can't keep a beat, but i've seen a lot of bands with good drummers that make really boring music.

terrible bands with good drummers have no excuses; they are just boring, have bad songs, and a talented drummer who is wasting his time. my point was that if you are a great drummer, you can have your pick of who you want to work with more often than not.

[neal79]

I think the problem for most is its just hard to play softer and still be crisp and on top of the beat. I remember when I was learning it took me a while to be able to play softer without getting a little behind the beat. Since most people don't like hard they just give up and beat the hell out of them.

That being said the drums do have a different sound when played loud vs soft and normally loud souds better with rock. Also as someone else pointed out keeping up with a couple of guitar stack forces you to play hard just to hear yourself.

[mikegee]

Originally Posted by abarnett

I don't know about this. I mean its hard to watch a band with a drummer that can't keep a beat, but i've seen a lot of bands with good drummers that make really boring music. Taste over talent. If you have good taste, then you know your limits with talent.

oh yea! i agree. i think i'd rather hear a band with basic rudimentary talent and great style and taste, than a band that sounds to perfectly good to be true bore me to sleep with less creativity, right on...

[Ol'boy rivers]

Why are drummer so loud... I'll keep my yap shut so I don't offend any one. ( I have a dislike towards drummers, But that's another story. )

[warmowski]

In hard rock, I prefer harder hits when the player knows how to be consistent and exciting (see: Bonham, Trainer, MacNeilly, Walford, Chambers, Stanier).

I also think it's kind of rare to find a drummer who knows how to use stress well and even rarer to find a band that plays up to that stress. That monolithic POW is glorious to me.

In a rock band, I'd suggest using earplugs or being in another band if your complaint is the drummer hits too hard. I'll give the drummer a benefit of a doubt and assume he isn't hitting too hard, the band is not hitting hard enough.

Again, I mean in hard rock. Not all material is appropriate for POW.

-r

[Echostar]

in my band, the issue we are having is not that the drummer is too loud, his set really fills the room like crazy. for our mellow songs he is able to get quieter which is good, but on our harder ones he really gets into it and basically everyone is drowned out, because of this to hear somewhat of myself my half stack gets turned up alot, the vocalist pushes her acoustic amp, and the 1 pa speaker to try to hear over me, the bassist just ads more craziness lol.

now i ask the drummer alot sense my cab is facing towards the kit, does it seem too loud he says its fine, but damn!

is it considered an insult to ask to use a drum shield?

[GuruOne]

GO HARD OR GO HOME (my eg. T.H.I.C)

[cthetranspire]

To me, it's more of a time and place thing. I like to hit the drums hard, but it's always with control and technique. If you don't have a technique, then it doesn't entire matter how hard you're hitting the drums.

Specifically; a lack of refinement may suggest a lack of study.

[SorenP]

From a recording engineer's point of view. Drums sound different when played soft vs. loud, thats just a fact. Most drummers when they first play in a studio setting don't hit hard enough to get a steady tone, so the engineer needs to remind them constantly. That's how it was for me at least, so it's just driven into a lot of drummer's heads from the start. Hit hard. Beyond that it's just muscle memory