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Old 05-19-2007, 09:22 AM
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If you are going to go multi effects and amp modelling the best way to choose between the POD Live and the GT-8 depends on what you will use it for. For amp modelling and distortion go the POD, for effects go the GT. Also look into the VOX Tonelab, they are very underrated and even use a valve.
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Old 05-19-2007, 02:34 PM
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If you are going to go multi effects and amp modelling the best way to choose between the POD Live and the GT-8 depends on what you will use it for. For amp modelling and distortion go the POD, for effects go the GT. Also look into the VOX Tonelab, they are very underrated and even use a valve.
i kinda hate the tonelab, sure it's got a 12ax7, but it still kinda sounds terrible.

but then again, i hate the boss gt, and hate the podxt live's as well.

but i'm just in the camp of "get a good quality pedal that does one thing amazing, rather than a half decent multi effects unit that does everything mediocre"
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:38 AM
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in a live setting though, i'd rather have the GT-8 than the XT. it's more durable and has more "amp friendly" tones vs. running a pod XT into the frontend of an amp.

A while back I saw someone using a great guitar, amp head, and cab that I thought would have given him some seriously amazing tones, but it all sounded awful! I went closer to the stage, and spotted the pod XT. It could have been something else, but we suspected that was the culprit. Either his settings were not made with live performance in mind, or he had some serious hearing problems.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:55 AM
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but i'm just in the camp of "get a good quality pedal that does one thing amazing, rather than a half decent multi effects unit that does everything mediocre"
seconded.
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Old 05-23-2007, 03:37 PM
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thanks for the responses all. i meant to ask about the tonelab too. I think I should just bring my guitar to a store and plug in for awhile and try em out.
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Old 05-24-2007, 12:29 AM
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Line 6 Is generally known as the "cheap" brand.
kinda like Squire guitars being the off and cheap brand for the Fender substitute?
From what Ive heard ad played on, there nothing special, usually a good looking $$$$, but you'll end up saying, WTF!!!!
If ya wanna cool small little practice kind amp for cheap, look at Yamaha, they've got nice small amps that get a pretty nice sound.
Still, If ya want good tone, ya gadda get a good amp, sometimes It costs a bit.
Everyones got there own taste, go test one out, find out for yourself, you may love them.
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Old 06-04-2007, 06:45 PM
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I think I talked myself out of a line6 amp
*pats self on back*

I've been playing with the PodXt live floor pedal with a variax the past few days and it sounds incredible even through crappy headphones. I'm wondering if anyone has used this as an effects pedal with a normal guitar and what kind of amp is vibing with it.
The pedal has a mode where you tell it if you're going out to an amp or using it direct, and i've been pretty impressed with the direct stuff actually, not that typical digital distortion ass-sound you find even on the line6 amps. So, my curiousity got peaked trying to figure out if i'd just use it direct, or what kind of amp I should get. Should I run it in "directbox" mode and use something flatter like a keyboard amp? Or should I still run it through some smoking vintage tube?

Sorry if that makes no sense, bascially just wondering if anyone has used it in a live or studio setting and how they dug it.
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Old 06-04-2007, 06:56 PM
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The thing about the XT live is that you can bypass any amp simulations and just use it as a regular pedalboard through your amp. However, if you were going to use the amp simulations in conjunction with an amp, a keyboard amp would be a decent route, but I'd recommend going into a tube power amp for a guitar or running the output of the XT live into the return of a tube amp's effects loop.

Don't run the output of the xt into the input of an amp if you're using amp simulators. Then you'll just be putting a preamp into a preamp and not even getting the sound you'd want.

If you go through a keyboard amp, you'll lose the dynamic of a guitar amp and it'll just sound like a solid state boring-machine.
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Old 06-05-2007, 10:27 AM
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I believe you can get away with very convincing killer setup if you use the Line6 PodXT and the amp sims with something like a Motion Sound Keyboard amp, especially their Rotary Speaker versions:


Bad-ass sound, plus a full on Leslie-like rotor effect and variable preamps equals killer guitar setup most people won't be able to tell you're playing a keyboard amp with.

I believe Tech21 makes a Power something that is just a straight active cab which you can run amp sim pedals correctly through. Plus I believe if you get a good passive cab and pair it up with a very clean power amp (not a guitar head) you can get a reasonable or transparent sound.

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Old 06-11-2007, 11:21 AM
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I believe you can get away with very convincing killer setup if you use the Line6 PodXT and the amp sims with something like a Motion Sound Keyboard amp, especially their Rotary Speaker versions:


Bad-ass sound, plus a full on Leslie-like rotor effect and variable preamps equals killer guitar setup most people won't be able to tell you're playing a keyboard amp with.

I believe Tech21 makes a Power something that is just a straight active cab which you can run amp sim pedals correctly through. Plus I believe if you get a good passive cab and pair it up with a very clean power amp (not a guitar head) you can get a reasonable or transparent sound.

I saw a few performances by The Chamberstrings recently (go check them out), and their guitarist/organist was playing through an excellent-sounding Motion Sound keyboard amp that had a great Leslie sound to it. That brand has a solid rep.
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