looks like garage sale junk

[dagosto]

Originally Posted by johnS

I wonder how the first-generation analog modeling synths will fare as they age? They get their sounds (personality) from algorithms, which get better with each new generation. Meaning the first-gen modeling synths won't sound as good as newer versions with more refined algorithms (unless you can upgrade the software or firmware or whatever--which is not the case with many of these DSP synths).

So assuming the synth engine in "locked in" (not upgradable), are hardware modeling synths like musical instruments, with a chance at becoming vintage, or like computers, with no chance whatsoever?

(I'm asking partly because I have a Roland JP-8000, which I bought used in 2000 but I think first appeared in 1996. I also had an old 133 MHz Pentium PC that I bought for $3K in 1996. I literally threw it out last year becuase it basically had become a paperweight--in no way shape or form was it ever "vintage.")

Are there some quirks beyond the outdated algorithms that will make first-gen modeling synths desirable as "vintage" instruments, even though their sounds have been thoroughly trounced by their younger, better counterparts?

I'm of the mind that the older algo synths, amp modelers, etc will become there own thing. For example, the rectified amp on the original POD was not really modelled after anything. They just gave it that name because it was heavy. That algo has been carried over XT series because it was so popular as a sound in itself. There are still sounds that I get out of my original POD that I have a hard time getting with the XT.

[mikegee]

Originally Posted by johnS

I wonder how the first-generation analog modeling synths will fare as they age? They get their sounds (personality) from algorithms, which get better with each new generation. Meaning the first-gen modeling synths won't sound as good as newer versions with more refined algorithms (unless you can upgrade the software or firmware or whatever--which is not the case with many of these DSP synths).

So assuming the synth engine in "locked in" (not upgradable), are hardware modeling synths like musical instruments, with a chance at becoming vintage, or like computers, with no chance whatsoever?

(I'm asking partly because I have a Roland JP-8000, which I bought used in 2000 but I think first appeared in 1996. I also had an old 133 MHz Pentium PC that I bought for $3K in 1996. I literally threw it out last year becuase it basically had become a paperweight--in no way shape or form was it ever "vintage.")

Are there some quirks beyond the outdated algorithms that will make first-gen modeling synths desirable as "vintage" instruments, even though their sounds have been thoroughly trounced by their younger, better counterparts?

this is a great question, and makes me wonder, since there are now multi generations of a lot of different software, will there be a retro software demand? and i know its just a technicality, but it will probably cause a new copyright battle, ala mp3 music, since it is licensed and technically you cant resell it once ya bought it... hmmm