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Old 06-12-2006, 04:52 PM
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Default Chile Peppers accused of "Petty" theft

Saw this over at Gearslutz. Thought I would repost.

http://www.gigwise.com/news?contentid=17507

Here is the MP3 that the DJ making the accusations did up to illustrate is point.

http://www.jared-morris.com/blog/petty.mp3
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Old 06-12-2006, 04:56 PM
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by that rational should michael jackson be sued for ripping off "Daytripper" for "Beat It?"


I say... LAME. A billion bands have similar chord progressions. I give this the thumbs down.
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Old 06-12-2006, 06:01 PM
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I would say it is pretty lame to go on an attack like this as well. Seems a bit of a publicity stunt. I also think it would be best to avoid people being able to draw these parrallels. I wonder if anybody in the Peppers' camp noticed this or said anything.

As far as the mp3 goes people have been doing this for a while now. Like when Nickelback capied themselves.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4258547
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Old 06-12-2006, 06:10 PM
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I would say it is pretty lame to go on an attack like this as well. Seems a bit of a publicity stunt. I also think it would be best to avoid people being able to draw these parrallels. I wonder if anybody in the Peppers' camp noticed this or said anything.

As far as the mp3 goes people have been doing this for a while now. Like when Nickelback capied themselves.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4258547

I remember the nickelback thing.... THAT was hilarious.
Also, although the video's in portugese, check this video of the crowd throwing rocks at nickelback in portugal a few years ago. it's hilarious....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75qV1...ack%20portugal
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Old 06-12-2006, 06:35 PM
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I would say it is pretty lame to go on an attack like this as well. Seems a bit of a publicity stunt. I also think it would be best to avoid people being able to draw these parrallels. I wonder if anybody in the Peppers' camp noticed this or said anything.

As far as the mp3 goes people have been doing this for a while now. Like when Nickelback capied themselves.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4258547
That Nickelback thing is indeed awesome. I remember hearing that one a while back. L channel is one song--right channel is another song--and they're pretty much exactly the same song. Same structure, same tones, same dynamics.

I guess if your music is that formulaic, it's inevitable that you're going to repeat yourself. But still, Yikes.
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Old 06-12-2006, 06:44 PM
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This Petty/Peppers excercise illustrates why it's pretty much impossible to copyright a chord progression. (How many Blues guys would be suing the pants off each other if you could copyright that one chord progression--you know the one.)
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Old 06-12-2006, 06:53 PM
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I remember the nickelback thing.... THAT was hilarious.
Also, although the video's in portugese, check this video of the crowd throwing rocks at nickelback in portugal a few years ago. it's hilarious....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75qV1...ack%20portugal
One hits him in the head!!! adfgjhdsgjfng
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Old 06-12-2006, 06:55 PM
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This Petty/Peppers excercise illustrates why it's pretty much impossible to copyright a chord progression. (How many Blues guys would be suing the pants off each other if you could copyright that one chord progression--you know the one.)
That npr story actually goes into a little bit of copywrite law with a musicologist. He mentions something about the bassline being very important when considering whether or not something is plagiarized. In my opinion there are just too many little things that can differ from one song to the next. Let the fans decide. If they like the chile peppers song whether or not it sounds like any other song is a moot point.
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Old 06-13-2006, 12:33 PM
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This smells like a publicty stunt for the radio station not something illegal going on. So it wouldn't surprise me if that was a shock jock program thing or a morning commute radio thing they had going. Anyways, the sincerest form of flatery is plagiarism or so the jive goes.
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Old 06-14-2006, 10:27 AM
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I won't say they should get sued or anything. Things sound like other things, it just happens. But I mean, come on....how could they not have written that, listened back to it and said "holy shit we just wrote a Tom Petty song, we'd better not do that"? It's totally Last Dance With Mary Jane if you ask me.

This also reminds me of when John Fogerty was sued for plagiarising his own song:
http://sandefur.typepad.com/freespac...lagiarism.html

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