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Old 10-01-2006, 05:37 PM
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does anyone know how someone's teeth can effect the sound of your singing voice? i've heard of many singers not willing to get major dental work done for fear of it changing the way their voices sound. i don't see how this can be true, but if anyone knows, chime in!
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Old 10-02-2006, 10:22 AM
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does anyone know how someone's teeth can effect the sound of your singing voice? i've heard of many singers not willing to get major dental work done for fear of it changing the way their voices sound. i don't see how this can be true, but if anyone knows, chime in!
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Old 10-02-2006, 05:06 PM
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Im pretty sure the teeth wouldn't be what affects your voice. I would imagine getting throat surgery or getting tonsils removed, going through puberty would be more affecting than teeth. Just avoid wearing metal teeth when singing through a SM58 connected to an ungrounded mixer in a lightning storm.
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Old 10-02-2006, 06:06 PM
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Im pretty sure the teeth wouldn't be what affects your voice. I would imagine getting throat surgery or getting tonsils removed, going through puberty would be more affecting than teeth. Just avoid wearing metal teeth when singing through a SM58 connected to an ungrounded mixer in a lightning storm.

yea, i don't see how it could either. but check out all of the rich (mostly british) vocallists with less than stellar smiles, and you wonder. but i've heard this superstition a few times and wondered if it had any basis in fact at all.
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Old 10-11-2006, 08:47 PM
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A pretty awful thing happened to the teeth/jaw of the singer of a band recording at the studio I worked at. His jaw was broken in a fight (more of a sucker-punch) before the vocal overdubs were done. He needed to have his jaw wired shut and at least six weeks if I recall to heal.

The (only) good thing about this story is his vocal approach / character didn't seem to change much after the injury healed. But you can decide for yourself...

...because you can easily hear the guy before and after his injury - it's Isaac Brock of Modest Mouse. The attack happened while he was finishing The Moon and Antarctica which was their first for Epic records, so check out any MM title on Up! records against Good News For People Wo Love Bad News or later...

(Some of the Moon vocals were cut before he was attacked, so to be sure, don't listen for a change on that album)

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Old 10-13-2006, 11:25 AM
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Tooth adjustment will not effect the SOUND of your voice. However, what may change is how you pronounce certain words. When I had braces, my teeth moved all over the place and I noticed the change in how I said words. For instance, something as simple as whistling took on a whole new dimention. Since I learned how to whistle with the sructure of the mouth like it was, I had to relearn once everything moved. Also, if you notice that folks with braces talk a bit strange, this is because of the extra metal in the mouth, but also do to the movement. Your tounge and lips get accustom to this position of the teeth and jaw. It is how your body naturally wanted to grow. After a lifetime of this, any change in that will change other things. However, the timbre of the voice should not be changed.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:47 PM
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On a related note, I used to wear retainers (top and bottom. total nerd? yes). I noticed that when I wore them my voice sounded higher. Well, when I started using higher end pitch shift and vocal transform effects I figured out why.

When we speak our mouths act as one of a few resonant chambers (chest, nasal passage, and throat are among the others). When I wore the retainers they would effectively make the space in my mouth smaller causeing a higher resonance frequency without actually effecting the pitch. This is akin to a formant shift available in most pitch shifting effects.

Based on this obsevation I would say that dental stuff can in fact effect timbre of the voice as well as pronunciation. The amount of wich could be entirely negligible.
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Sorry, no idea. But I'll ask my dentist when I can get an appointment!
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there have been a lot of great British singers but not a lot of great British teeth attached to those singers...
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there have been a lot of great British singers but not a lot of great British teeth attached to those singers...

yea, ever seen thom yorke's teeth? how about freddie mercury or joe strummer? not pretty. reminds me of that simpsons episode where they had the "big book of british smiles." classic!
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